We started at the Pioneer mail camp ground and got on the PCT from there. About 2.5 mile to the trail that heads up the peak. The cache was placed in 2002 and was rename Phoenix Cache after the fires in late summer 2002. After the peak, we hiked south on the PCT for about 3 more miles finding various caches. It was windy, but nice and warm. We had lunch on a outcropping and headed back. Good Father and Son adventure!